“Casting Super Shallow Lake Trout” Full Length (TV Show 8) – Uncut Angling – April 1, 2013

“Casting Super Shallow Lake Trout” Full Length (TV Show 8) – Uncut Angling – April 1, 2013


AARON: Yeah. Let’s go. TIM: All right. Let’s go. AARON: Here comes the big man. We’re at Kenanow Lodge. This is Tim Matheson. He’s the former owner and now
he’s just the head guide and local fish bum. Tim and I met probably
seven years ago, fishing an online tournament. Head to head. Lots of bitter rivalry there. We still kind of
hate each other but we’re going to join forces
today for some lake trout. This is a super special place. There’s a lot of different
things to fish for all year long. You can drive right up to it. And we’re here in October. Trout season, right? TIM: It is. I’m hoping it’s right
smack on the spawn. A one-time shot. AARON: Did I mention we
don’t like each other? TIM: A one-time shot. This is a one-time shot. If it doesn’t work,
it’ll never happen again. AARON: Let’s just say it
won’t happen again anyways. TIM: This’ll
never happen again. AARON: Hey, just help yourself
to the compartments. Put your stuff
wherever you want. TIM: I just did. AARON: Yeah, go ahead. Play with that thing a
little bit if you want. Spin around. TIM: This is much more
technical than mine, so… AARON: Did you think a
gumball was gonna pop out if you spun that
a couple times? TIM: Just get in the
boat and steer it. AARON: Let’s go. What’s your
number one bait here? Of all time? TIM: It’s my second favourite, you can’t get the
favourite anymore ’cause Rapala stopped
making the Jointed– AARON: They discontinued it to protect the lake
trout population here. TIM: That’s right. That’s right. And now you can buy them online
for like forty, fifty bucks. All right. You’re here to learn
everything I got to teach you. (clapping) AARON: Water still
says fifty three. TIM: Well, we’ll
see what happens. AARON: How shallow does
this reef come to, Tim? TIM: It’ll pop up at
four or five feet, if you go across
the right spot, but usually it’s
about six to eight feet. I’d rather work right
out at the edge and cast into it as far as
we can and pull it out. AARON: Okay. TIM: You’re getting close. And we’re gonna work
around the left side ’cause it’s the windier
side and they love wind. AARON: Perfect. TIM: We don’t,
but they do. AARON: You don’t. I don’t care. TIM: I don’t like wind. I’m old. AARON: As you can see, we’re on the downwind
side of the island here. It’s always best to move into
the wind for boat control. Start downwind, push
up into the wind, plus that way if you do
catch a fish or something, you back up off of the spot and you don’t blow
over the spot and ruin the whole thing. So you let me know if
you want to adjust. We’re in seven,
right at the front. TIM: That’s fine. You’re fine. Just stay right there. AARON: You stay right there. TIM: Okay. You know, for somebody
who wants to be told what to do all the time, you’re not
listening very well. AARON: Just catch a trout, Tim. That’s what we need
more than anything. We don’t need us to get along. We don’t need to have fun. We just need to
catch some trout. TIM: We will not have fun. We will not get along. AARON: Show the camera. TIM: I can tell
you that right now. AARON: Pretend we know
what we’re talking about. Well, I do know what
I’m talking about. You just need to
pretend you know what you’re talking about. I’m an expert angler, eh? TIM: I really hate
this young guys guts, but what do you do? AARON: What do I do for work? I have a television
show, YouTube channel. TIM: See? He doesn’t
understand very well. I said, “What do you
do to the camera and the people that
are watching?” And he automatically assumed
it was about him again. AARON: I thought you were
asking what do I do for work. I thought you were making
conversation with a guest, like you would normally do
when you’re in a boat. TIM: I’m talking to the
millions of people that you’re gonna
have watching. The millions, the
multitude, the masses. Not you. AARON: So, where are you from? Come here often? What do you do for work? Got any kids back home? Oh yeah. You do a lot of fishing
where you come from there? Oh, there’s no fish? It’s not nearly as
good as up here. Oh. Okay. It’s not even worth
doing any fishing then? You must have
catfish and crappie. But you don’t like fishing
for catfish and crappie. Huh. So the only fishing you
do is up here in Canada? Fish? TIM: Yep. AARON: Yeah, baby. We’re just simulating a typical
guide/guest conversation and Tim is locked up. How’s it feeling? TIM: It’s feeling all right. It’s feeling all right. There it is. Might even be a trophy. AARON: Really? TIM: We’ll see. AARON: First fish of
the day, a trophy. TIM: Maybe. It’s looking interesting. AARON: Woo! TIM: It’s real close. AARON: That’s a good fish, Tim. TIM: She’s not
quite ready yet. AARON: I don’t see the lure,
which is a good thing. It’s not gonna pop
out at any moment. TIM: I don’t think so. It looks like it sucked it in. AARON: Tim, this is
a big, nice trout. TIM: Yep. AARON: Keep bringing it
this way if you can, Tim. Put your rod right this way. Yep. Right like that. TIM: Okay. You ready? AARON: I’m ready. TIM: Let’s see if
we can lift it up. AARON: There’ll be no problem
grabbing the tail I guess, eh? TIM: Yep. AARON: Oh, there we go. I got her. Oh yes, Tim. This is the first
fish of the day. This isn’t like some super
star at the end of the show. This is the first
fish of the day. Come right in here
beside me, Tim. TIM: Now, this is a fish. AARON: What to
expect at Kenanow Lodge. And you’ve got an X-Rap
that’s absolutely clobbered. You want to pull that out Tim? We’re gonna get him back in
the water as fast as we can. TIM: Yep. AARON: Perfect hook
out there, Tim. Can I put this
one right back in? Amazing fish. Look at those fins. I’m getting it back, okay? TIM: Put her back. AARON: You want
the measurement? TIM: I don’t need it. It’s about a
thirty-five inch fish. AARON: She’s ready to go, Tim. All right. Perfect release. TIM: All right. AARON: Thank you so much, Tim. I didn’t even get to catch
it and I’m so pumped up. T-boned in his mouth, and you’re saying these
fish aren’t even eating a lot of the times. TIM: No. They’re mostly aggressive. AARON: Out of aggression. TIM: When we get
’em on the beds, when they’re cruising
along, yeah, they’ll feed. But when they’re on the beds,
it’s strictly aggression. They’re getting rid of anything
that might eat their eggs. AARON: So you’re ripping
this bait pretty hard to get them excited about it? TIM: Ah, actually I was bringing
that one in kind of slow. AARON: Oh. TIM: I was bringing
that one in kind of slow. AARON: That kills my point. Thanks, Tim. TIM: Not a problem. AARON: Perfect. Okay. TIM: That one I was
bringing in kind of slow because I was talking to you and trying to educate
you in what to do here. AARON: I appreciate that you
are trying to educate me along the way, Tim, ’cause it can take quite a bit for me to
actually learn something. TIM: Well, you know, I
gotta pass this on fast ’cause I don’t have
a lot of time left. AARON: So, when
you’re jerking it, you can really stir it up
without working it too fast or having that
little fly by them. TIM: Nice. TIM: I’m doing it the way
you’ve been talking about for most of our fishing, but I stopped a
little wee bit, slowed it down a little
bit while we were talking, and that’s when it hit. AARON: Like Tim said,
a lot of these fish don’t exactly want
to find a meal when they’re
living on these reefs, when they’re
spawning on these reefs, they’re just
chasing predators off. So it’s totally the
opposite of normal. They’re actually– It’s the reverse of the
food chain, isn’t it Tim? TIM: Once they’re
on the bed, yes. AARON: Yeah. TIM: They’re not
interested in food. AARON: So the nice thing
about jerking these baits, like I’m jerking a SubWalk, Tim’s jerking an X-Rap, is that without the same crazy
speed that would be needed to get a lot of erratic action
and generate that anger from the lake trout. When you’re jerking it,
you can really stir it up without working it too fast or
having that lure fly by them. So there’s that
aspect that really– TIM: That jerk/
pause let’s ’em see it. AARON: Yep. Oh, right there Tim. TIM: You got him? AARON: All right. Same thing. Just as we’re talking about it, I’m just twitch, twitch,
twitching my lure, just a light little twitch,
twitch, twitch, as I’m going and it makes that lure move. TIM: Another male. AARON: So much more
than a steady retrieve. TIM: What’s this? Four or five minutes
since the last one? AARON: Four or five
casts since the last one. Yeah. The wrist on the tail of these
fish is such a natural handle compared to a pike,
or a walleye, or something like that, when you’re trying to go
for the mouth and gill region. You can see Tim
has no problem. TIM: All right. Nice. AARON: Good handle on there. He’s hooked on the
outside of the face, which is perfect. That one’s a little bit
smaller than your last. TIM: Yeah. This one’s about a
thirty-two and a half, thirty-three maybe. Thirty-two and a half. AARON: Okay. All right. No need to keep
him out any longer. We can put him right back in. TIM: Here we go. AARON: Nice. TIM: All right. That water is nice. AARON: What I appreciate
fishing with a guy like Tim is, Tim gets it. With these fish you want to
keep them out of the water for what, an absolute
minimum, right? TIM: As fast as we
can get it in and out. AARON: Take a picture. Take a video. Do whatever you’re doing. But have the
release tools ready. TIM: Get your cameras ready. You know you’re
gonna get a picture, get it ready before that fish is
even being touched by a guide or your partner, whatever. So that you get it out, you’re handling it
as little as possible, back in the water. AARON: Perfect. TIM: This whole
thing is about the fish. AARON: It’s all
about the fish. I like that, Tim. TIM: Everything
is about the fish. (♪♪♪) KEN: Hi, my name’s Ken Kansas. I’m a Fisheries Biologist
in the province of Manitoba. Catch and release fishing
has come a long, long way. It needs to go further. We need to realize there’s
so much more to it than just putting that
fish back in the water. This is super basic. When it comes to hook removal, use the right tool
for the right job. And by that I mean, don’t bring this to a
fight involving one of these. You know what I mean? Okay. Standard needle-nose pliers, great all-around
tool for hook removal. Does most fish. But if you’re gonna fish for
small fish with small mouths, get a nice pair of hemostats, get right in there in
those teeny weeny spaces, get that small hook out. But if you’re going
for that big fish, using big baits like this,
big muskie, big pike, you need the proper
tool for the proper job. So the goal is to release
these fish right, properly, not just to watch it swim away but there’s a
realistic chance that that fish can be
caught again one day. AARON: Here is a forty-two
and a half inch pike I caught through the
ice a few years ago, in the dark, on a walleye jig. It was the biggest pike I
had ever seen from the area, so a year later I went back to
the spot with my friend, Erika, to target pike with tip ups. Wouldn’t you know, Erika caught the
exact same fish? It had grown half an inch and
was now forty-three inches long and still sporting
the exact same distinguishable damage
to its tail fin. An incredibly
exciting recapture. TIM: No, I don’t change. I always go to the same
damn spots every single time. AARON: Let me try. Go like this? TIM: For you, that’s good. That’s a good look for you. Anyway, this point comes up
onto our nice rock shelf. We’re gonna take our
time going up onto it and stay a little further out ’cause we can cast more
onto that rock pile. AARON: That same
deal, broken rocks, small rocks. TIM: Broken rocks. Fist-sized and head-sized. That’s the perfect size rocks. It’s a primary point. I usually take off of that
point over here and over here, whenever I get big fish. I sometimes will get
the pair, like two, a male and a female. AARON: Yep. I can actually see… TIM: But they hold, these
points hold big fish. AARON: I’ll show you
here on the side imaging. You can see the
actual individual little boulders here. You can see those aren’t huge
boulders casting big shadows, it’s just a really fine
speckling of boulders out to both sides. TIM: That’s what
I’m telling you is that’s what they
really, really like. AARON: But I’m just showing what
you could actually look for if you weren’t a guy
that’s been on the lake for his whole life. TIM: Oh yeah. This is nice when you don’t
have years and years on a particular body of water. AARON: Yep. And looking for
new spots and stuff. Do you ever do that, Tim? Or you just fish
your same spots? TIM: No, no, no. I’m– I change them all the time. I look for something, I try something different
every time I come out. AARON: I was just bugging you. I know you do. TIM: I thought you
were talking about… AARON: Talking about what? TIM: Just for the TV show. AARON: No, no. It’s for…yeah. TIM: Good. Because, no, I don’t change. I always go to the same
damn spots every single time. AARON: (laughing) TIM: I was just
doing that for you. AARON: Oh, okay. TIM: Turn the damn boat
around will you, and get going. So can I fish now, or what? Jay? JAY: Aaron, you can fish and
Tim just wait for a bit. AARON: Okay. Tim, cameraman says I can fish. TIM: Okay. AARON: That means
you’re gonna fish too. TIM: Damn right. AARON: Is this a good spot? Primary, secondary? TIM: This is secondary. Around the corner is primary. Oh, got a fish on. AARON: Perfect. TIM: Ah, it’s a
nice little male. AARON: I can grab
him for you, Timmy. TIM: Yeah. AARON: Why don’t you explain
the difference between primary and secondary? TIM: Primary has the
perfect conditions, the perfect depth, the perfect sized rocks,
so and so forth. AARON: Yeah. TIM: Okay. The secondary is– It doesn’t have
quite as good a… AARON: That something, eh? It’s lacking favourability. TIM: It’s lacking in
maybe quite the right rocks, or maybe not enough of them, or they’re more
scattered than a primary. AARON: Okay. I think I got her here. And by her I mean him. TIM: It could be a trans. AARON: It’s a trans. Do I want to ask what
a trans is, Tim? TIM: Yeah. It’s a male. AARON: It’s a male? TIM: Yeah. AARON: There he is. Perfect. TIM: All right. Another thirty-two,
thirty-three inch. It’s thirty-two inch. AARON: Super sweet
looking fish there, Tim. TIM: I love those fish. AARON: That’s a male then? TIM: Yes. AARON: So, still not a female. TIM: I got that on this
Rapala that I got from you and I’m not sure
exactly what it is. AARON: I think that
colour is called blue steel. Tim was on a more
natural colour and he switched up to this one, which has some contrast there
between the chartreuse and the purple top. TIM: And it’s
starting to lose its… AARON: It’s not unlike
the perch colour that you like to use
here a lot, eh? TIM: It’s similar. That’s probably why I picked
it out of your tackle box. AARON: We’re not gonna get
too big on the colour though because size profile, in terms of something that
they’d actually eat and… TIM: Style of lure. AARON: The style of lure. The aggressive way you can work
it is a lot more important than the actual colour. TIM: There’s millions of fish
and they basically have to take their turns. They come in, other
ones move off, new ones move in. AARON: Mm hmm. TIM: It’s constant. AARON: So that being said, once you find a
spot with fish, you’d probably way rather work
that spot over and over again than waste your time on spots that could potentially have
nothing on them, right? TIM: Yeah. You move on a little bit,
come back to that spot, ’cause if it’s
already held fish… AARON: Yeah. TIM: It’s got
what the fish want. AARON: Yeah. TIM: So, new fish will move
in on that same spot. You might have to
rely totally on fish that I catch for
your show here. AARON: Fish. TIM: Oh yeah. It popped when I set the hook. AARON: Oh, is that
ever a big trout! TIM: And hopefully
we don’t get snagged, but we want to drag it
across the top of them rocks. AARON: Yeah. TIM: Where the
big fish may be. Right up on them. AARON: What kind of
water temperatures are we talking about that the fish are
moving up in general. TIM: Usually fifty-two
is triggering the smaller fish to spawn. AARON: Yep. TIM: And by the time it
gets to fifty-one or fifty, that’s when the big
fish are interested in the spawning beds. AARON: Tim’s going in depth
with these water temperatures. It sounds like it’s a
really specific period, and it is a small window, the whole spawning behaviour, but in terms of
planning a trip for the fall, there’s windows
that open all fall and even in the
midst of the spawn. If you were to come
up and be here exactly when the spawn was, there’d still be fish
that hadn’t spawned yet. There’d still be fish that
were already done spawning and recuperating. It doesn’t all happen
within a day or two. So there’s really, when you look at
it that way Tim, would you not say there’s
no bad time to come up here. TIM: Oh, I’d– No. We fish for trout
the whole year. Not everybody’s
gonna catch big fish, but for every fish
that comes along, whether it’s pike,
walleye, or northern, we have trophies
in all categories. The exciting part is you
can catch a lot of fish while you’re waiting
for that though. AARON: Yeah. TIM: You know. AARON: It is nice. It’s not like you’re sitting
here catching nothing, right? TIM: Yeah. This is a…fish. Oh yeah. AARON: That looked good, Tim. TIM: You’re gonna use that. Oh, it stopped when I set
the hook and I figured… it’s looking femalish
and it’s looking nice. AARON: I thought it looked like
it might have been in the top and maybe had rolled in
there or something, stuck on a fin. TIM: Well, it could but I’m not feeling any
tail thump on the line. That’s usually what you
get when they’re fouled. (whispering) But I’ve
been wrong once before. AARON: (whispering)
Just once? TIM: (whispering)
Yeah. When I said I’d go
fishing with you. TIM: All right. I’m tiring you out. AARON: He’s way back
out there again, eh? TIM: Oh yeah. Everything I gained, I lost. AARON: This is a
crazy freaking battle. My knees are
shaking a little bit. Are yours, Tim? TIM: No. But my back’s
about to (indistinct). AARON: Really? Do you want me to take
him the rest of the way? TIM: There’s
some more bubbles. AARON: He’s
definitely very close. We’re just about
to get a peek. TIM: Damn it, it’s fouled. AARON: It’s all right. It’s still huge, Tim. TIM: Yeah. But might need to… AARON: Net him? TIM: Net. AARON: Right here is a
reason, if nothing else, to use oversize tackle
when you’re fishing for big game of any kind; muskie, lake trout, anything. You get a fish
foul-hooked like this, if you’re using
sporting sized tackle, you just have no chance at it. And right here we’ve
got this big laker that’s unfortunately
hooked in the dorsal fin. So now that twenty-pound
braid Tim’s using and the extra power
he’s got in his rod is all coming in
handy, actually, bringing this fish
in in a timely manner, and not expend all the
energy this fish has. Right, Tim? TIM: Yep. Get it in as quick as we can. I don’t want it dead tired. AARON: No, I shouldn’t, Tim. TIM: Come on. AARON: I shouldn’t. I shouldn’t. TIM: My back is killing me. I’m old and I’m beat up. AARON: I’ll take it but
then you don’t have to send me a Christmas gift. TIM: Okay. AARON: Should I? Should I actually take this? TIM: Oh man. AARON: Are you sure? TIM: Ah yeah. AARON: Are you
still gonna net it? TIM: Ah! AARON: Are you actually bad? TIM: Yeah. AARON: Should I
actually take this? TIM: Yes. AARON: I don’t even
feel bad for some reason. What a nice
thing for him to do. TIM: My back is
killing me right now. Sciatic problem I have had from fishing three and
a half years ago, I threw my back out. AARON: I think this is it, Tim. TIM: Yeah. At least this way I can
move around a little bit. There he is. AARON: Right there. Right there. Reach for him. Reach for him. TIM: I know. Got him. Yeah baby! Big trout. AARON: I just want to keep
him in the water for a second ’cause this fish is
going to be quite tired out. TIM: Yes. AARON: His
head’s in the water. This is a huge fish, Tim. TIM: Yeah. AARON: Okay. Should we bring
him up in the net? TIM: I think so. Let’s get it in the boat. AARON: Oh yeah. That’s a big trout, Tim! Oh is that ever a big trout! Oh is it ever a big fish! Yeah, baby. Thank you so much. Tim even let me reel it in. That’s what we fished for
today, all day long. Tim kicked my butt. Let’s put him right back in. TIM: That’s
about a thirty-nine, forty-inch fish, easy. AARON: Man, big-bodied trout. He’s still got tons
of energy, Tim. TIM: Yeah. He’s going. He’s gone. He swam on his own. He’s swimming. He’s tired. AARON: He is tired. TIM: But he’s good. He’s tired but good. AARON: Yeah! Buddy! Yes! That was awesome! TIM: That’s it! That’s what we want. AARON: Let’s get
out of here, bud. AARON VOICEOVER: Uncut Angling
is proudly partnered with: AARON: In the side imaging
you can see boulders scattered around on both sides and that’s just indicative of exactly what Tim’s
talking about in the areas we want to fish. Right, Tim? TIM: Yes. They like to hit these
little pocket boulders. Usually holds a pair of fish. JAY: Okay. Let’s just stop. TIM: Thank you. Now let’s fish. Come on. Can I control this? Let me control this. AARON: What were those long
pauses in between your points? TIM: I forgot what
I was gonna say. I thought, actually, that
you didn’t want me to talk. You left the pause
there and I figured, “Well, shit, he wants
me to say something.” AARON: Pocket
boulders and they’re just, they’re scattered kind of. TIM: Yeah. Get up. AARON: Yeah, you know,
uh, we’re trout fishing.

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